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In this Episode
- [02:34]Skai recalls a happy childhood surrounded by family, community, and carefree experiences before beginning his spiritual journey.
- [04:51]Skai explains how rediscovering suppressed childhood memories through shadow work allowed him to experience genuine joy and self-acceptance.
- [10:06]Skai describes receiving visions of people’s souls, future events, and humanity’s evolving path following his spiritual awakening.
- [17:54]Skai describes how he believes his three-week spiritual experience rewired his mind and transformed his sense of identity.
- [21:31]Orion asks how Skai remained in silence for three years, prompting him to describe the intense spiritual assignments he says he carried out each day.
- [31:05]Skai explains why intention is the foundation of spiritual practice and believes the depth of one’s commitment determines the outcome.
- [33:33]Orion asks Skai how spiritual connection through meditation differs from experiences with psychedelics such as ayahuasca and magic mushrooms.
- [36:51]Skai shares his belief that humanity is already entering a crossroads between technological enhancement and inner spiritual development.
- [39:14]Skai explains that choosing a higher timeline begins by turning inward and recognizing one’s connection to the divine within.
- [41:09]Orion asks Skai to share his three most important principles for living a fulfilling and meaningful life.
- [44:14]Skai shares where people can access his free Double Vortex technique, Zero Point Activation program, and online community.
About Today’s Show
Hi, and welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here, Skai. I’m really grateful you’re here, and I’m so grateful to connect with you.
Thank you for inviting me, Orion. It’s a great, great pleasure.
Yes, maybe we can start with one of your best childhood memories.
Childhood memories, wow, that’s interesting. Because recently I’ve been going more into childhood to pull out some, some shadow to do some shadow work. So that’s a question that takes me back, and that’s actually very good. I mean, what comes to me is the feeling of joy, always. My family was pretty big in the south of France, in a small village on the beach, and very, very united, very, very happy, simple people. Like I was the first one to go past high school, and to do a business, but very, very smart, you know, very street smart, and good-hearted for the most part, and so it was a lot of joy. I have many cuisines, you know, many friends. I was not spiritual at all. I was just enjoying life, what life was giving, a lot of people, activities, etc. So when I look at it, that’s what’s coming, kind of like a golden hollow; there were delusions on it, for sure. I was not aware of many different sides of the world, but it was kind of a nice cocoon.
Oh, that’s beautiful. I feel like when a lot of time, when we go to our childhood, it’s always about the shadow and all the bad things we’ve been through, and how we need to really work on ourselves, and I had my own experience where I did a lot of subconscious work at 40 years of Zen from Dave Asprey, where I went to memories that were actually beautiful that were blocked, because sometimes we just, like, we tend to hear to remember the hard things, so I feel like it’s such a, it’s such a joy to bring in the good stuff, because it’s a world of duality, there’s not everything is dark in the even in, we had dark moments, but we also have so many beautiful moments that are so worth remembering, we’re wired to look for danger, remember danger.
Yeah.
I’m thinking to myself, like you weren’t spiritual, but isn’t being enjoyed the most spiritual thing you can do?
Yeah, being in joy, I mean, I’m finally back there, no, but from a long, long way, and from a different place, also because I was in joy. Honestly, I was happy, you know, most of the time, as far as I remember. So, I have always had a great memory. It’s only recently that I’ve been discovering things that had been suppressed that happened to me, like many kids, like when I was very young, I had completely suppressed it, and it’s like I pushed through that, you know. I was constantly happy, but a part of me wasn’t fully me.
Also, at some point, I started having a real back and forth between ISF and lower self. No, I called it that because I didn’t know what it was. I was diagnosed bipolar because of that, and maybe I will go a bit into my story later, but I spent three years in silence, and despite that, you know, I felt I had found a new ground, etc.
But some things were still missing, and I could only clear them up when I went back to them. I had a flash coming like two or three years ago, and I started doing what I do with my clients, you know, my students are going back into it, and I saw now what happened was hard to believe, but I had to believe, you know, I trust. I’ve been doing so many jobs, bringing people into this space. I say, well, if you don’t trust your own thing, and my wife helped me also. I did ayahuasca when I saw it even clearer, and then I could completely shift, and now I can be happy with myself fully, like I mean, I’ve seen some degrees that I’m working on, but to a great, great degree.
You are a godlike being, and you have the power to control your reality, so learn it. Share on XSo it’s interesting because this thing was completely hidden and suppressed. I enjoy myself in that container that we call life, no, without spirit, no, without God. That thing I kind of master. I did a top business school in Paris. I was supposed to be lucky and to have money and have plenty of friends. I was the happy guy, but something was off. You know, I said, “What am I gonna do now?” And when I was 24, I said I’m gonna just work, and make money. This did not attract me. I didn’t like any kind of work. I tried it, but it was really not a passion for me. And I first say, “okay, my life has been amazing, it’s been like a rise like that, and now it’s going to go down. I’m gonna have a wife, kids for me.”
It was not at the time; now, for me, it’s more interesting, this is the place I am. By the time I wasn’t, that’s when I started questioning, questioning, questioning, and having a very potent awakening in 2001, six months after I had no one. It was interesting because I have no one spiritual around me, not my family, not my business school friends, nobody, and something cracked open inside of me, which is happening to a lot of people today. I could hear basically your voice, my voice, but explaining me who I was, why I came back, what I’m going to do, what’s going to happen in the future. No, this voice was telling me that in 20 years, people will be like you. So in 2021, during the pandemic, I was receiving, like, prophetic visions, with many different details. It was very surprising.
Wow, what do you think triggered that opening of that channel, connecting to your higher self?
Well, I think once there are different levels, no, which I think it was ordained on, like my higher self, I call it the Supreme Self, because I don’t like too much higher and lower, so I call it Supreme Self and temporal self, you know, the ones that exist for a moment, and it’s not a judgment, and the one,
It still sounds like I’m the supreme one.
Yes, supreme,
You can’t avoid the duality.
It’s divine, it’s eternal, it’s a spark, that is, knowledge, although one exists for time, but it’s not a hierarchy, it’s just different in degree of quality, basically. For me now, after having fought against my lower self or temporal self for years, I embrace it, and that’s the only thing that’s been helping me make peace, not to separate, and so that’s why I think the language can change a lot, you know. How we look at it.
I feel like language is so limited. I understand what you’re saying energetically, like I totally feel it.
So, yeah, I’ll try to match the language with energy. I’ve been working a lot of energy, I’ve been discarding the language, the language completely. At the point I spent three years in silence, I was not speaking, and barely, barely thinking.
So, I’ve been talking about that. That’s so odd. How can you do that?
It happens, it happens a bit as a necessity. After that awakening, I had to make it short. I have had one year of samadhi, now whether he calls somebody ecstasy. I was constantly happy, I would barely sleep, you know, maybe three hours a night, like high energy, constantly guided by great synchronicity. I did the first healing, as I witnessed more, I mean, I was there, a miraculous healing, I didn’t believe in God or spirit or even energy at the time, so I saw incredible things, which shifted me completely, but after, yeah, nobody would believe me. The whole thought I was crazy, I trusted myself.
Your mind is you; it’s not an external entity, and when you take it as you, then you have command over it.
What did you see?
Well, I could read people’s souls, no, like very easily, what, where they were at, what they were struggling with, know what they should do, and the problems, I would say, people, you should do this. I was not educated, you know, to respect people, people’s free will, or people’s choice about the people I love, not my family or my friends. No, I wanted to wake up so I could see many, many different layers of people, which I have now integrated.
At the time, I didn’t have any, yeah, any really practical tool to navigate this, but I was seeing many events in the future. Now that’s really it’s been a big part of me. Like, I saw the pandemic, I saw the wars after, I saw the artificial intelligence and artificial longevity, which is the next step, artificial immortality. All that was more in 2011 when I completed these visions. I wrote it down. I had a copy. It is time to literally, what’s been happening constantly. It was coming to me when I would meditate; I would travel and see these things. And now I have actually developed a method that I use to help people do it. Also, I realized that this gift, like the healing gift, can be transferred.
So you were traveling through timelines, or through one timeline.
I would say I would travel through one major timeline of humanity. Now it’s, I would really see the core, not so many details, like it’s more how I am. I see big things, you know, like the ensemble of things, not too much about detail, so I will see more like mass events, mass transformation now within our species. Also, that’s a lot. I saw a lot. How, how would they be now? A lot of people talk about it, notably Gregg Braden. No, he speaks very well. That vision was very detailed in 2011, like a shift in our species between one choosing to go with biotechnologies, brain implants, or the ship to basically gain enhanced abilities, and another choosing to go deep inside and unlock our human powers.
When you are at war with the world, that means you're at war with yourself. Share on XFor me, there’s no superhuman, the human. Still, they’ve been locked, which are divine powers, like ancient yogis, prophets or teachers, you know, have done to literally work what we call miracles, which is to me just, you know, rendering reality differently, in a more advanced way. So I saw that fork in 2011. I would go every morning; I would travel for five hours. I was in New York at the time. I would sit on my desk, look at my computer, my black screen, and boom, I would go like that. I never learned meditation; I would just go, and so I was writing it as a movie. It was very vivid, like you’re watching a movie, but with even more detail. I would work after, because I had to sustain myself. So I was doing headhunting and like recruiting for McKinsey, so like switching, you know, to finance, like something completely different, like cold calling. I was still in my pajamas.
On my left brain?
Yeah, like completely at the switch, like this in the evening I would write what I’ve seen in the morning, you know, despite all of it, was still fresh, so I would write all the accounts, the dialogs, no, the visions, and I wrote 1200 pages like that, so a stack of paper like that over six months of a hazard discipline for six months. Then I went back to Los Angeles, where I was living before, to present it, you know, to some producers and directors. They all told me, I want to do it, I want to do it. It was really compelling, a bit like a lot of the rings, you know, the matrix, but I would say next level. It was very realistic.
I was about to do it, I was discussing with several people, and I realized that I still have that split, that bipolarity, you know, they would be that person traveling, you know, seeing all of it, having like, like that, this wisdom and this vision. Then there would be the other one, and there was no bridge between the two. It’s like I was really two-faced, and that was very hard to live with. I felt I wasn’t really honest if I were doing a movie, you know, about Unity, about what, because I had experienced that in 2001. For, yeah, really, I was living like that.
You are already there. You have all the resources. That’s the most important shift.
Still, I had not mastered it, and I would, I would, you know, basically not be fit to re-talk about this, so I asked for guidance, which I call God. God, for me, is a coordination of divinity, you know; it’s the name of my, my collective inside. And what, what should I, what can I do to become one? No, I’m tired of being like this, and that’s when I received, ‘why are you ready to give up?’-that was really your voice, not my voice. This one, it’s a higher voice. “Are you ready to give up everything”? And I say, “yes,” and like your friends, your family and your fiancé. She would leave, but come back each time, and I love her a lot. I’ll say, okay, your mission.
So I was working on this movie for 10 years; that was my, my poor number one baby, my reason to live and to go through all these things. So I say yes, I let go of that. That was the hardest, to be honest. And then I received: “Okay, now I’m gonna send you to hell.” I thought I had been brave and would be rewarded, a bit naively. And then I went to hell. I spent three weeks with no food, no water, so I was in the room, like, constantly. I wrote a memoir about it, where it’s detailed, constantly working on energy and going to different planes- unlike galactic planes, earthly planes, underworld planes, basically- and having all these, having really like hardcore things that I need to do, I would again barely sleep. Still, this time it was not out of joy; it was out of work. I had to constantly fight for the light against the darkness; it would push me forward and try to stop me, and I had to constantly deviate.
And stick to that force. I cannot explain everything I was doing, but it was for three weeks, and then after I entered the silence, you know, I thought I was done. I spent a year sitting on a chair, so for 23 hours a day, roughly, I would sit like day and night; I would maybe spend a couple of hours at night on the chair, where I would close a bit, my eyes, and go into a different world to recharge, you know; that was sleep, but I was still very conscious. Still, all the rest, I was mainly eyes open, not meditation, eyes closed, and working on energy, like moving energy, I didn’t, I understand now. I begin to understand now, 12 years later, what I was doing, but I was basically rewiring the field that is just before the physical, not the supraphysical. So that’s basically what the energy is, just before it becomes matter, and just will become yourself.
Say that one now. I can help people do very quick healing on cancer, on chronic disease, Lyme disease, neuropathy, like this, in the last three to four years that I’ve been beginning to teach healing, and healing also myself. It’s been insane. And then I just, oh, that’s why, because all that work I’ve been doing was for him.
So now, when I work with people, whether through a group or one-on-one, they can access it, know it and go back to it very quickly. But at the time, I was just opening gateways like this, so I spent a year like this and another year walking. So I went to an ashram in Northern California. I was working 10 to 12 hours a day, 20 to 30 miles a day, every morning, for many, from morning to night, with a little break in the middle. And then I thought I was done, and I started running, so I ran 40-50 miles a day.
From sitting to not moving to running. Wait, let’s go back for a second. Three weeks, no food, no water. Where were you? How did you decide to do that?
Well, I told you I didn’t really decide. I asked, you know, for my guidance, basically. Do you, because I was tired of being these two?
Was it at home?
Yeah. I had some housemates. I was in Venice Beach. I had three very nice ladies living with me who didn’t know what to do because I was locked in my room. They would knock, you know, the time to drink somewhere. I didn’t have any more voice. At the end, I said, “I’m okay, and I know I had to go through that. So, it was intense for them, too. No, for everyone, but I followed. No, I had that guidance really clearly at some point, and that was amazing, and then I started doubting it. Then I started not listening to it, and that’s when I went really, really down, down, down, down, down to that place of, you know, like psychotic, schizophrenic, suicidal. No, for years I didn’t dwell on that. Still, I spent years with constant psychic attacks, you know, talking to me before I decided, now I’m just gonna finish myself, because I cannot do my mission, which I saw in 2001. After all, my brain was so messed up. No, it was completely cracked; I could feel it, you know, between left and right.
Wow.
The frontal lobe has been intact, basically. So I was still trying to function and was very conscious. It’s not like I was, I was not conscious of everything, but I kind of understood the bit was what’s happening, and I thought I cannot, I cannot function anymore, you know, it just goes there or there like this, so I didn’t know about any of the work. What
When was the merge between the right hemisphere and the left hemisphere?
Well, during the three weeks, what I did was rewire my frontal lobe; I was constantly focused on that, which I call God, or that I was upset about. I was like, this God is a narcissist. No, it’s crazy. You know, it’s just me. Know how to constantly. He’s like the most mega. Oh, my narcissist. So I didn’t understand at the time, but having that focus constantly, bringing energy here constantly, and doing that movement from light to shadow to transmit, transmit, transmute, and I’m actually understanding better as I’m talking with you. I was basically creating the vortex technique that I use today, not to empower people, and I was rewiring that place, and then that split; it was not 100%, but it was completely different. I know who I was.
God is in all of us. It’s our core, our true self, our source.
My ground shifted from going back to going into this long world, so this meditation, and going there, and then going back to that guy, to being that self, that’s reprint self, and then sometime now going down to that guy but coming back here in those three weeks, that that ground shifted like with this three weeks is the time also for the body to take a habit and to integrate it as well, so yeah, I didn’t understand, though. I follow now; I follow the guidance; I have learned to follow it. It was amazing not to follow it; it was really hardcore.
So this time, when it came back after years of trying to get this connection back. You know, and I didn’t have any teacher. I read some books, but nothing could really speak to me, you know, in a way that could help me fully. So I had to do my path alone. Now I know my guide was back, so I say I’m not gonna let it’s like a dog would bite to the guidance, and that’s why then I did all this extreme, not a posterity, because I know it was either that either going back to what I was and that I didn’t want it, so that’s somewhat fueled my work, you know, my transformation.
It’s hard for me to shut up for an hour. How did you, how were you quiet for three years?
Well, it wasn’t being quiet; the hardest thing was what I was doing, because I was given assignments, so every day I had to do something, which even today I cannot explain to you what it was. I was moving energy inside the field. It was very clear what I had to do while inside, but there was no real breach of this reality. So I would spend 24 hours sitting like that, doing that thing constantly, and then fighting with anger, no, because of course, after 12-14 hours staying there, you start being hungry. I was skinny, completely emaciated, and thirsty. I will not drink water, not for two years, no water, pain.
Sometimes I would have energy; I had literally energy burning on my body. The energy was so strong, and on my feet that it was starting to burn in certain places, so I had to go through pain like this boredom, because indeed I would get annoyed; even if it was always a new ordeal, it was always the same stuff. I would sit on the chair the whole day and go through that, so I would have to constantly bring myself back to the center, the what I would call the force, no, the miracles at the ZeroPoint, my teaching bring it back to ZeroPoint, so I could bear with this, so I could create energy to deal with it, so it would be more comfortable, no, not fully comfortable, but better, and and time would pass like this, so I would be busy.
When I would stop the next morning, sometimes I would receive a job like that, say, “Okay, now you can go. It was a small, small breakfast. I wouldn’t remember what was happening. I had no memory. I was hearing a mantra, a music, literally composed of electronic music, so it was a little electronic loop that I would hear like that in the background, but not like an Indian guitar or sitar; it was electronic. So the whole time it was with me, and then it was shut off. No memory of the music, no memory of what I was doing. I would go eat my breakfast, no recharge, and then go again for another day, sometimes three days like that, regularly at the end without moving.
Yeah. When did you know you were ready to start showing up in the world and teaching people?
It took time. Yeah, each time I thought, okay, now, after a year, I know God is gonna tell you, ‘good, now you can go and share your journey,’ and no. Then I went to work. Then, after work, I started feeling really happy. After a year, and after two years, I was. Still, then I had to run, and then at the end, I was sent back to Boulder, you know, to Colorado, and started meeting people- not a lot of students, not from Naropa, and naturally not like sharing, sharing, no, my, yeah, my teaching, my. However, I was still a long way out of the world when I was there; it was still in progress.
I was given another almost decade, you know, eight years of experience, before starting to really share. Now, what I call sharing, that was four years ago, now when I started building a program, building a technique to heal people, that was in 2022. Now receive. Okay, now you go. Now you can also sell your things. Now you need to make a living from it. So, what was hard was doing it from scratch; you know, I had to find clients and make a living, and the assignments were always very entertaining. So it worked well immediately.
I was helping people heal, like really severe stuff, and almost systematically when I did, when I was doing healings, so it was cancer, Crohn’s, Lyme, neuropathy disease. I don’t have the name because I’m really not a doctor; I didn’t know anything about it. I would just work with energy, you know, and shift it, like abuses, you know, different type of traumas, and after I think, after a year or two, I was so drained now, because people who would bring me new clients, and that I say, okay, my brain starting doing some weird things, because I work a lot, I would walk in distance you know, lots, so with the mind that I say, now I need to find another way, not to do that, that’s more sustainable, and that’s that’s when I designed the program that I’m doing now, which is called ZeroPoint Activation.
It’s 111 days activation, when we go through the essential phases, you know, of what I did in 22 years, you know, I compacted it like three months with the essential meaning, stabilizing your field, no, and really encouraging your true self, your relationship, purifying all your relationship with the divine, with yourself, your family, your lover, your friends, no, your co-workers, so you have like a clean, like alignment, and then more your mission, like really, what I, what are you here to do now, and building the two. To do that, like expanding basically into the world, etc.
So I combined that with a core technique, the tuple vortex, which has been evolving over the years and now works very simply. You, you silence your mind, you drop immediately. It seems complicated, but it’s not. It’s just an authority, and you’re gonna have a few seconds, or you know, or more, basically, of silence. You drop your awareness into your heart, and then you start moving step two, a counterclockwise vortex around you, counterclockwise, because you’re unscrambling counterclockwise, so you visualize, or you feel a liquid gold, so you’re not busy thinking, or trying to silence your mind, or trying to listen to your breath, etc.
You just focus, like with your consciousness, on moving around yourself, so that’s self-hypnotizing you. You kind of start clearing your field, and people – most 90-95% of people immediately feel more peace, no more relaxation. Some can see the light with the analysis that varies. Still, most people have never done any meditation; they can feel it, and then you clear whatever you want to clear, you bring the slides, you access the ZeroPoint, or you get closer, at least from that place; you clear what you have in the way. Once it’s clear, you really feel lighter, or you see a light; no, something tells you, then you begin going clockwise, and you begin reprogramming now. So now you bring what you want to your field. So, instead of this, I want you to know this power.
Each step in the right direction feels very good. Share on XInstead of this abuse, I want you to know this power, or these skills. Still, you’re not doing it with your mind, you know, like manifesting from you, from your ego, no, from your temporal self; you’re doing it from your supreme, from the ZeroPoint. Hence, it works, but you’re now seeding in your field; it’s gonna grow, so that’s the third step, and then you protect and ground, and that’s the fourth step, very simple. People with this have been healing, like a hairpiece, and people have never walked with it; they just download this meditation, have it free on my website in a few days, no, 14 years of your peace, like severe, severe chronic pain, people healing, like torn ligaments, ACL, bone to bone.
I had someone here, my neighbor and friend, his father-in-law, 74, who never did any energy work, you know, who was born to bond, supposed to have surgery. It’s another technique I have, but it’s similar to it. He gave him the video and told him there would be no surgery, and the next day, he went to work for three hours. So it’s the speed; the speed is surprising. I’m currently taking a course with Shift Networks. There are 300 people, and I check the chat each time to see how many are there. It’s a great, great majority with my community, the same now, like 80% 90% of the people feel a shift, a significant shift, and many people begin to work kind of miracles, not working with the weather, bringing clouds, things like that, healing themselves, healing others, getting a free car. No, someone manifested a free car, and she did the Golden Sun as an energy work that makes the front of me a car. So things like that, you know, by really accessing, accessing the field, and that for me is my greatest joy. Now it’s worth all the knowledge to see people doing that so fast, and so, yeah,
But you say, you say, just quiet your mind; that’s the hardest thing to do.
Well, you can command it; that’s realizing your mind is you, is not an external entity, no, as many people describe it, it’s you, and when you take it as you, then you have command over it, so I’m not saying you’re gonna immediately manage to create it, for 30 seconds straight. Still, if you already yield that power, you’re gonna bring a lot more silence. The goal is not to be perfectly silenced, no sounds, that’s also a mistake in meditation, you know, you’re always gonna hear or feel a bit of stuff, it’s to enter more space, more quietness, no more relaxation, now entering a more comfortable space.
Surround yourself with people who are aligned with your frequency.
You don’t want to do zero silence, like I would years after. I would still hear a voice, but I was not identified when I was walking, for instance, during meditation. I was no longer identified with it. So I would keep doing my stuff, I would keep doing my work, and the voice would be in the background. When I’m in silence, it’s also important. It’s just no clean slate, and nothing moves. You can do that, but that’s not even sustainable, because we live in a world, you know, that’s busy with frequencies, constant frequencies. So it’s more how you deal with this, and you can create a force like a cocoon of protection, where you are with yourself, and the rest feels more boring, not like more in the background.
So, how do you get centered and do all this, where, like, the mind chatter is really loud, or there are like world events, or are things outside that are queer? Is it difficult to be standard?
Just have the lightning, like, as you would hear.
Yeah, I get here at the time.
The second one, so how do you do this? It’s a decision now. If you really want something, you’re going to get it; if you kind of want it, you’re gonna get it. For me, intention is all, so if your attention is 100%, you’re gonna get 100%, if it’s 90-90, if it’s 20-20. So you want to be sure about what you really want. And the second step is sometimes sitting, and meditating is not gonna work. You’d better go move, do some boxing, take a cold shower, you know, depending on.
I love that.
How deep you are. And that’s why I say to my students, don’t always sit and do the vortex, you know, don’t be a donkey, because I’m like that. Also, I find some things that work well, do them all the time, and then I’ve learned, no, you need to be crafty. There’s not just one way, basically, to figure out things. So, at times, for myself, for instance, I need to check myself, I need to go in the pool, I need to, I need to take a cold shower. I need to do something. Let’s go to work or take a nap.
Most of the time I can do it by sitting, you know, and by silencing, because you don’t always have, no, we’re busy, so we don’t have time to do all these things. And as I do it, as I describe it, I really, the main thing, I don’t try to silence the mind. Actually, don’t even really do that. I just say that to people; it’s sort of like an entry door. I immediately drop here, because you’re aware of that, you know. Here, you’re aware I’m here because you are the consciousness, so your consciousness is sinking. Well, now I want my consciousness, which is me, to feel. So that’s a comment.
And when you do that, you immediately bring your center of gravity back to your plexus or your heart here, and already half the work is done. Now you’re not here like you were so busy; the busyness is still there a bit, but you’re calmer, and then you focus on this energy. You can use the breath. I don’t use it much, but that’s super helpful. Also, you know, some people do, you can combine this technique of people combining with everything, like with yoga, breath work, all of it. It doesn’t; the beauties don’t replace any practices; they amplify them. It’s really an amplifier of practice.
These tools don’t replace any practices; they amplify them. It’s really an amplifier of practice.
So, whatever practice works for you, you amplify it, and you find your way, and you use this as a tool, but it’s not the only tool. Everyone has their own set of tools that they are connected to the most, and I guess the main thing is the desire to connect with God, whatever acronym it means to you, right? And how do you differentiate getting to God through meditation compared to through psychedelics, ayahuasca, magic mushrooms, all of that?
Well, first, what is God? You know, for a time I thought God was my father, you know, a bit like Jesus. I still believe that, I still feel that, and I love that, but for me, it’s only one part, you know, of the equation. For me, God is in all of us. It’s our core, our true self, our source. No, we are all gods when we go deep, deep, deep inside. Okay, we all come from God. So we are, in a certain way, all gods. You know, I’m not being blasphemous when I say that. You know, I’m not talking about the temporal self and the ego. No, it’s a godlike representation, but it’s not what I call God, but us at a deeper level, we are the source. Then the source is differentiating itself, you know, into different qualities, different energies, different elements, different planets, different beings, you know, all of that.
So, there is individuality, there is unity, and there is a spectrum in between, and we travel with our consciousness: we can go to pure unity, pure duality or the middle. So, when I mean God is going to that place that’s within us, and feeling being from there, that place of creation. Now, when we see we have time, we have control. So, psychedelics can help you go there, but there’s a tool, the substance, so that’s the limit from your feet. It gives you a certain experience, which can be amazing and deeply shifting, and I love it. You know, I do it sometimes, but that doesn’t replace, for me, the work of going there now.
The work you do every day, that’s the most important for me now, with your spiritual practice, and whatever that is, whether it’s double vortex or geo dispenser, or whatever you do for me, you need to have a very solid practice. It’s not just for yogis; it’s for everybody now, and it involves energy because we are energetic beings. So that’s fundamental to me. So it’s an accelerator for me now, and it can also be. I mean, two weeks ago I did ayahuasca; it showed me things that I can do most of the things on myself, but each time I do it, I’m like, I’m impressed. I say, “Wow, this is like the grand master, you know, the grandmother. It shows things in a way that helps it remove that.
It just pushes its energy that pushes you to the highest realms a little faster, or a lot faster.
We are all gods when we go deep, deep, deep inside.
Yeah. Faster, very, it’s like very obvious, very in your face, and the way I work is similar. It’s my wife who brought me to ayahuasca, and when I started working on her, she had a UTI for 17 years, you know. And when we met, I basically helped her. I think in the two sessions we did it was mainly gone 90-95%, and she told me it’s very similar to ayahuasca. Actually, I have not experienced it, but the difference is that you are more in power. When I do the work, I connect people to ZeroPoint, not to the source. So then you go, and you clear your trauma from that place. You see me with Erica often; you do it from your lower self, from your ego, and so it can be violent; it can be very, really like restless. So, the experience is often similar; it’s just softer now. It’s much softer and more sustainable. I wouldn’t do ayahuasca, really. I like to do it, you know, once every few months. You know, that’s great, but you can do this every day. How is it? So, for me, it’s complementary to all these tools.
And you saw the, you said you saw two timelines where people chose to go inside, compared to people who chose to become bionic and connect through AI and all that. Yeah, where are we heading?
Well, that’s happening now. Now it is literally happening. There’s a bunch of technologies, you know, that are ready, that are already tested, you know, not necessarily all officially, but that can do that, that can enhance abilities. I mean, you have some of the official ones, you know, the Neural Leagues from, from Elon Musk, that you can plug, and you can not supposedly, and maybe he means well, I’m not critiquing, you know, here, but for sure, that can be used, you know, for people who have certain impairments, but that can be used for everything.
It can also be used to, like, control humanity. Can all become this, like, big hive of robots,
yeah.
Robot connected to 5g, you know? I mean, to 7,8,10g.
But it doesn’t feel good.
So it’s happening, you know. In 2011, it was a vision. Now I see it, I see it happening, and the pandemic, or so I saw, was one of the first steps, not to test basically people.
If you connect to the force within you with your true self, you are entering the heavens.
Well, what’s the happy ending? Like every movie has a happy ending. Where’s the happy ending?
Well, for me, I see a very happy ending after an intense journey, which varies for people. It really varies for people, because we are also choosing our timeline within the collective. Personally, I feel I’m entering the timeline I’ve been looking for a long time. No, no matter what’s happening in the world, and I don’t think it’s just because I’m here in Portugal, nor isolated from the world. I’ve also been choosing to be there. No, I was living in Los Angeles at some point two years ago. My wife had dreams.
I used to be a neighbor; I guess I used to be in Santa Monica.
I was there, yeah, yeah, Santa Monica. Then we moved to Ohio, and I did well there and liked it. But then we received a dream to go to Portugal and create our paradise. We’re doing that here. We’re creating a zero-point village, not like with people.
I’m coming to visit you in Portugal.
Yeah, with pleasure.
Beautiful people in Portugal have to connect with a lot, like, as we were talking, I’m like, oh gosh, I gotta visit Jen.
There’s a big party next week for good people next Saturday,
Next week, but yeah, sounds amazing. How do we choose around? How do we jump into the most optimal timeline ever?
That’s a good question. I feel that, you know, by going inside, immediately realizing that you are not the creator, you are the heaven, and you are the hell. Now that’s what God told me, hell and heaven, it’s always there, it’s you who choose at any time to go into one or into two, and one of the biggest delusion from this system, from this metric, is to make us believe that paradise is somewhere else, it’s later, no, or it’s in a different plane, no, or it’s when everybody is going to be happy on earth, and there won’t be any misery.
If you believe all these stories, you can run after your paradise for a long time, life after life, if you realize that you are creating that, and you can even be in a very difficult situation. You can be at war. I mean, I’ve not been to war with people, but what I went through, believe me, it was tough. And when I did it with God, always at force, it was more like a game. No, it was beautiful. No, because I was transcending boundaries. I was raised, well, I’m capable of doing this. There was really beauty in it. I wouldn’t call that hell at all.
When I went without God, when I didn’t have that connection anymore, and I had these voices attacking me, and I gave up, and I was like, that was hell, that was really hell. So, for me, if you connect to the force within you with your true self. You are entering the heavens. If you disconnect, you’re entering hell, and you’re doing that at all times. So, it’s really realizing that not looking to be there, being here, and then doing the work to anchor yourself. You know, there’s the decision, the mindset to shift, and then the practical daily work. With your energy, your diet, your movement, your breath, not to stay anchored, your collective, your surroundings, and when you combine both like this, you begin your own heaven. You can be anywhere and feel it.
I love it. What are your three top tips for living a stellar life?
When you combine both like this, you begin your own heaven. You can be anywhere and feel it.
Interesting question. Well, the first one we just shared. It’s like always looking to live from ZeroPoint, you know, from source, and realizing that you are kind of already there. You have all the resources. That’s for me the most important shift, not being there and coming back here.
The second one, I would say, is like surrounding yourself with people who are aligned with your frequency. Now, with your vibration, you have been doing a lot of work on that, discarding everything at some point, and then rebuilding from that, and I’m very demanding. I think I respect all gradations: some people like, you know, to manipulate, to distort, to lie, etc., to kill; some love to create, to choose to collaborate, to give. There’s a full spectrum of that, you know, and everybody is embodying different, different ways, but there’s a part that doesn’t interest me anymore.
And also, I choose to bring my frequency to call in my field people who feel aligned with that, and mostly that’s what’s coming, no. Now, amazing, great people like Jen, you know, like Yanik, like since I’ve been really picky with that, I have, like, amazing friends that don’t have the time to meet, and three years ago I had nobody; I had a very bad divorce after that. I was destroyed, with no friends, no family, no connection, and I hit a point where I said, “Okay, now I don’t want that anymore.” I was in LA, actually, having these false friendships that would always fall apart, and I’d call again.
I call from God, from really what I want. No, I want the best boyfriend, the best girlfriend, and only many in Maria’s line. They gave me my wife, since they gave me a boyfriend and a girlfriend, and both things started shifting. So, again, calling for that, that I would say is the, is the second, the second step, and the third is being patient, also, no, really patient, not to want everything now, because the ego, no, you, yeah, you want things too fast, here we’re building a center, we got already a funding without even asking, you know, by one of our community, which is amazing, no, and now we, the be the project is becoming bigger, so we need more, and so I coach myself saying, oh, now we need more, you know, having that, that no, now you’re already good, you know,
You’re already in the trap of the matrix, yeah, exactly,
Trust that if you are aligned with this frequency, many guides, many forces are bringing you what you need when you need it.
You can always want more, so for more, so let’s bring the energy back and draw what we have, and call for more, instead of pushing, and call and be patient, and trust that if we are aligned with this frequency, many guides, many forces are bringing you what you need when you need it. But if you want to push it, you can, you can manipulate things, forcing everything is allowed, but you’re gonna have a backlash, a price to pay for that. If you wait now, like this, you’re gonna attract what you need. You’re gonna live in peace, which is the most precious thing for me. No, because happiness, true happiness, can only stem from peace. Otherwise, it’s just temporary, and it’s gonna, it’s gonna fall. And then it’s the opposite.
And where can people find you, work with you and learn from you?
So, my website is ZeroPoint.Earth, and we have you can download the double vortex technique for free, is zeropointearth.com/double-vortex , and we have a program called the ZeroPoint Activation, which is this 111 days that after keep going with our community, that’s really the thing I recommend, like, for people, because we have, like, I’m like crazy and pretty systematic, I mean, system, it’s not 100% people need to do the work, but it’s 80 90% of people who shift either chronic disease or or things like that, but it’s not just that, mainly, you know, aligning, finding the purpose, finding the joy now being that frequency, and the people who’ve been sticking me long enough, they enter that ZeroPoint, you know, they leave that, that in their own way, which is different from mine, you know, but I notice now some people in the communities, they just radiate, you know, all the time, and and they know how to go through things, it’s not, it’s everything is perfect again, but they have the tools, you know to go through things, so that’s really what I, what I recommend, and, and for the people who want to have more sessions, we have also, like, all the tiers, you know, we offer a few, a few sessions to help, so that’s the main thing, and YouTube channel also, and Instagram, ZeroPoint Earth.
Amazing. Wow, thank you so much. It was so fun to meet you and learn from you, and it was fascinating. I loved everything you said about heaven being here on earth, about surrounding yourself with the right frequency and the right people, about just being patient and peaceful with yourself, and about letting things unfold and calling things instead of pursuing them, like, yeah, with our minds. It’s just an incredible story, incredible. And thank you for the vortex technique, and everything. It was very beautiful. Thank you.
I will share it with you. It’s my treat. I love, you know, what people are doing with it, and what you are saying; it’s really, it’s like loving yourself, you know, making peace with yourself. Because when you are at war with the world, that means you’re at war with yourself. So it really begins from inside, and I’ve been at war with, believe me, the system, all these things, you know, for years. I just wanted to dismantle everything when I had this vision, and no matter how high I went, I would still be at war. That’s why I understood. If I don’t stop, if it’s, I’m not going to be fully at peace. Now, in peace, it’s the most precious.
So, it’s like, okay, I understand that things are not perfect; there are no distortions, but they are also part of the creation. How can I realign them within myself and progressively within others, and when you work from that place, you’re not attracting this disordered energy anymore. At least you’re not fueling them. No, you keep clearing what you need to clear, and it’s much easier to do your work. And I dream that people understand the mission we have with zero pointers. I’m also working with the collective for the healers and teachers. The mission is to encore two 50 million people into this frequency, now, by 2055 and not by rushing, not by, you know, going out there, etc., by being in this frequency first, and really embodying it. Progressively, people come into this frequency; now it’s like it’s reverberating, there’s no rush right now.
Take your time. Wherever you are now, you can begin rewiring and reprogramming your life patiently to where you want to go.
There’s a sort of huge haste and fear, because 2030, because AI now, because all these shifts, or everything is possible, or everything is going to rush. And I was also into that, and I have completely stepped deeper into ZeroPoint, and not rushing, not running, knowing that you are in power now. You are a godlike being, and you have the power to control your reality, so learn it. Take your time, wherever you are now, whether you’re in pain or in trauma, or you can access that, and you can begin rewiring or reprogramming your life patiently to where you want to go. And each step in the right direction feels very good. Each step is the other one doesn’t feel good, so better like embody, embody this piece and accept where you are.
Skai. Thank you so much.
Oh, yeah, thank you so much for inviting me. It’s, uh, and for finding me, because I’m not too devout. I’m going to do it more now. I receive you; you have to begin speaking now. So I’m very glad to begin this with you now, and I know we’ll meet again.
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