Science Consciousness and Miracles with Dr. Amy Albright

In this Episode

• [04:04]Dr. Amy Albright discusses her transition from neuroscience to Chinese medicine and her work as an executive coach and strategic advisor.
• [07:23]Dr. Amy credits her grandpa for helping her understand the power of creating her own reality.
• [12:09]Dr. Amy describes the meridian system and how acupuncture fine-tunes the entire being, beyond just the symptom.
• [21:09]Dr. Amy explains how the programs at Holon create rapid neurological and energetic changes, leading to significant personal transformations.
• [23:32]Dr. Amy emphasizes the importance of working with individuals who are committed to making a positive impact in the world.
• [39:13]Dr. Amy shares her three top tips for living a stellar life: anchoring the body in the morning, spending time in nature, and staying in a state of remembrance.
• [42:06]Dr. Amy reiterates the importance of living in alignment with one’s true self and making a positive impact in the world.

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About Today’s Show

Hello, Dr. Amy, and welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. I am excited, and I’m looking forward to our conversation

Same, thank you for having me on. 

We met on Mosquito Island at the Maverick1000 retreat, where you were the main speaker, leading all kinds of processes and sharing with us. It was a joyful, beautiful experience. I’m so happy I got to know you. Today, we’re going to talk about the illusion we live in and stories that we tell ourselves, and how to break through and break free and become the best versions of ourselves, and all the good stuff. Before we begin, maybe you can share with us one beautiful childhood memory.

I grew up in Los Angeles County, but where I grew up was in 350 acres of cow pastures. It’s an interesting version of LA County. It doesn’t exist anymore. It’s since been mowed down and made into tract homes, but I remember sitting on the edge of our property, looking out over the whole San Gabriel Valley, and just listening to the wind. It’s something that I come back to a lot. We had a four-stall barn and goats, and I’m just out there by myself, maybe holding a little piece of grass that I had found and just feeling and contemplating. 

I know that’s a really unusual thing, maybe a lot of kids anchored into Disneyland or something like that, but I think that for me, my anchors were really my animals and the feeling of spaciousness and the feeling of quiet and the feeling of the land that I lived on. There’s a certain anchor moment that I come back to quite a lot from my childhood, that’s just that, just sitting, listening, and being with the land and the wind and my animals.

That’s so magical. I really felt you when you were saying that, it just felt like I just opened a storybook and it took me to this beautiful scenery. Tell me, darling, how did you become Dr. Amy? What’s your origin story? What drove you to do so much and to help people the way you do today?

I’ve always been a deep-feeler, and had a lot of love for people and wanted to be in a helping role. When I was a girl, I was encouraged to be an elementary school teacher, or something like that, but something was always driving me to look for deeper answers. When I was 18, I actually had a massive spiritual awakening experience, and that shaped the rest of my life, because I wasn’t looking for a spiritual experience. I was an atheist. I was studying neurosciences as an undergrad, as an atheist, and really wanting to understand the human reality in terms of neurotransmitters. 

I’m like, “Oh, there are these little chemical packets, and they move along. If we can just understand that and do more academics—I was on a research track, so I was going to become a professor—then we can understand reality.” 

I was still wanting to understand human reality, but I wasn’t ever going to frame it inside of, “What is awareness? What is human consciousness,” or in the ways that I might now. Anyway, I have been led. I could not have made up such a wildly interesting path with my own mind, because the spiritual experience that I had, that awakening experience, basically had me then start to study things like shamanism, rites of passage, and indigenous ways of being around the world. 

I became very interested in how people have always lived, and I think that that really segues into, or has an anchor point into, how I’m calling out illusion inside of our modern society, because the current soup we’re swimming in always is impacting what we’re up to. 

I ended up studying both spirituality and the neurosciences, and cognitive psychology was my official major. At some point, graduated and then felt God’s absolute call to become a student of Chinese medicine, a very clear calling that I could not possibly ignore. 

I went to school for that, and then as soon as I got into practice, it was a whole other wild ride, like my patients are coming to me, and I’m getting all of these feelings in my body and these words that I feel compelled to speak out loud. I became known for getting to the root of things, seeing through what the symptom picture was or the disease name was, that they were coming in with and creating radical miracles for these individuals in ways that were really not supposed to happen. Unexpected. I learned that it’s so important to remember that in every moment we’re on the precipice of a miracle. 

Oh, I love that. 

If I wanted to come in with my fears, my doubts, my insecurities and my limited thinking, that I’m actually taking from my patient. They do not deserve my insecurity. There is no space for it inside the space of working with them. I would just surrender fully inside of the prayer that I may be utilized to serve something bigger and to co-facilitate with them, and with all that is something that was completely unexpected, pure, potent miracles and possibilities. 

Of course, I’m still rooted in science. We had to learn so much science and Chinese medicine. We have to learn modern science as well, but we had to learn the ancient sciences. I was basically putting all of that information together with this experience of reality and understanding how malleable it truly is. Fast forward, I’ve done a lot of things since then, but the origin story is kind of found inside of a lot of those elements. Like I said, it’s been a wild path. I couldn’t have designed it along the way. 

I could reframe and work with my energetics, perception, and underlying belief structure to change my reality in real time.

I’ve also been an executive coach and a strategic advisor, because I realized that if I could solve all of those things for an individual, I could also solve them for communities or businesses or ecosystems or anything else. I’ve set my sights on being able to solve the biggest problems that I’ve been allowed to have in front of me, and to find solutions and ease where people think that there’s just chaos and disharmony. It’s very difficult for me to describe in one sentence what it is I do for a living. 

It’s very when people ask me, “What do you do for a living?” 

“I do… I just do”

“It comes to me, then I do it, then I do some more, and I learn. But doesn’t matter, because I do it and it comes to me, and then I do it again on a bigger scale.”

That’s right, with full attention and with a lot of scientific rigor to back it, but always with this leaning in on what is the inherent possibility that maybe isn’t obvious right now to perception, and how do I utilize that? How do I capitalize on that possibility to create an incredible outcome here? 

Were you always so focused and driven? Or did you have any setbacks throughout this journey? Because you said something amazing. You said, “My patients do not deserve my insecurity.” Did you have any insecurity, and how did you arrive at that point where there’s so much faith in you? Because that’s what I’m hearing. 

I grew up massively insecure. I had anxiety. A lot of my family were amazing people and very healthy and loving, but I was also exposed to a lot of unhealthy folks and a lot of trauma and abuse, so I didn’t know how to regulate, and of course, I was a wide-open empath inside of all of this kind intensity of everything. Lots of different hardships and setbacks, and they didn’t end in my childhood. In those ways, it continued on. 

I also had a lot of trouble with my health, which is literally written into my astrology chart—I found out later. But it’s been a huge driving force in me really understanding life and what reality is, and also how to help other people who are having their own health challenges. But I think that the thing that came when I was 18, in addition to that spiritual awakening as an atheist, was that I received into my life, maybe for the first time, in a big way. He and I had been estranged because of family estrangements, and so he helped me to understand that I was creating my own reality by the age of 18 or 19 years old. 

This is a lifelong journey. This is not a thing that you get cognitively, and then it’s not a concept. It’s a way of living. I would say that as far as challenges, I had the capacity to be challenged by that reality at a very early age, and know that if I was being presented an outcome or a reality inside of my life that I didn’t like that, perhaps I could reframe and work with energetics, perception and my underlying belief structure to change my reality in real time. 

It hasn’t been an easy path, but it’s been a rich one, and I am grateful for exactly as it’s gone, because of what it’s brought me and all of the beauty that has existed. My life has come from both the challenge and the blessing—the obvious blessing, the challenge is still a blessing; it’s just wrapped in disguise.

Tell me about your spiritual awakening. What was it for an atheist to all of a sudden have a spiritual awakening? How did that all of a sudden turn into you being like, “I believe in God?” What happened there?

My grandpa, when I was interacting with him, for the first time at age 18, he said to me that he didn’t realize how sick I had been, and that he wanted to send me to acupuncture every week for a year to recover my health, and so he did that, and on my very first session with acupuncture, this guy that I just met is putting needles in, I’m like, “Oh, whatever. It’s just a few more poking and prodding. I’ve been through everything, medically, whatever.” 

He puts these in, and I’m not really disbelieving, nor am I believing that it’s going to help. I’m just kind of neutral, like, “Whatever, I’ve got nothing to lose.” 

Science would never be able to explain the totality of what I was experiencing, or the totality of what is true and real.

He leaves the room, and I’m not saying that I actually did, but I felt like I was levitating and sinking, and I could hear very clear voices of guidance, and I could trace out exact meridian pathways without ever having understood or seen a meridian chart before. It was a God moment. It’s not really something that somebody can put into words. But there I was having this massive experience, and I knew two things with total clarity. One: there is a God, whatever that means, and then two: that science would never be able to explain the totality of what I was experiencing, or the totality of what is true and real.

That’s beautiful. You have a way with words. I love that. I love listening to you, and I totally resonate with that, and I love acupuncture. I’ve been helped by an acupuncturist for years now, and I’m one of those people where they put the needle at one place, and I tell them exactly where it is, and it’s usually always them, or the edge of the meridian or something like that. Like I’ll get a needle in my hand, and I’ll be like, “I feel it on my left side.” In my head, I’m like, “That’s right, that’s where it’s going.”

I had experienced this one idea for an amazing birthday party that I came up with in the middle of an acupuncture session. There were times when—right now, I’m working with an acupuncturist for my back, and she does a lot of things. I don’t get to rest a lot because she’s like, “We’re gonna fix you.” Lots of needles and less like me just zoning out. 

But when I zone out, sometimes in those sessions, I do really get into those very remarkable experiences of God, angels, visions, and ideas. It’s pretty profound. How can you explain that? How can a little needle on our meridian get us to this ‘wow’ place?

It’s a great question. The meridian system, when we work with it, is the fine-tuning of our entire being. The Western paradigm would have us say, “Oh, we have a problem.” The problem exists where the problem where the symptom is, and the only system that’s involved is the one that’s obvious. For instance, the low back pain, or back pain, could be a musculoskeletal problem in western but when we look at deeper philosophies, we understand that there could be an element, the water element. It could be that there’s a kidney transplant involved. It could be that the person is having a lot of fear in their life. I’m not saying this about you, but I’m just using the example.

You can say it about me. I have a lot of things going on. You can say whatever you want.

We are an instrument of the divine.

If we were to translate it to the chakra system, it could be a first chakra, safety and survival kind of fear. It could be a financial fear. It could fit into society’s fear. It could be any kind of fear. If we go down the road of tuning the entire system, what we’re working with with acupuncture goes far beyond the body, and goes far beyond the symptom. What it does, in its essence, is it tunes our physical instrument, which is an instrument, the way that we would play an instrument for an orchestra. We are an instrument of the divine. 

If we are having problems in our body, in our mind, or in our emotions, any of these kinds of things, if the instrument is not properly tuned and we’re hearing that screeching or the off-keyness of it, what happens is that our conditioning in modern society is not true. When you study anthropology, in modern society, we say the body is misbehaving in a more holistic and where we live closer to the land and where everything is alive and everything has its own sentience, which is how we’ve always lived, until modern society, we know that we are living outside of our own design, or outside of our connection with nature. 

When we tune our instrument, now you can hear, because the instrument isn’t just being played. It’s not just that you’re moving through life, or you’re speaking through life, but that you’re actually designed to receive that information from your highest self, from the apex of your neurology, functioning well, from the energetic realms, the realms beyond. This isn’t a part of our common modern belief structure right now, but this is actually what we do. This is how we are designed to work. It’s how animals—we believe ourselves to be the pinnacle species. But I would say are we really that smart? I don’t know that we’re behaving so well right now, or maybe in general. 

But what happens with animals is that they’re naturally intuitive. We’re okay with them being intuitive, but we don’t realize that we are also animals. We are mammals, and when we live inside our design, we become intuitive beings. We are that already. I would say that you are such an intuitive being that you’re really able to feel it when you’re lying there, if somebody is allowing you to be just inside of the attunement to catch that signal, that frequency, for yourself, then you’re really able to understand it from that point of view.

I feel like maybe you have some animal communication in you. Do you?

Definitely, it’s easy once someone has opened the lines of intuition. Communication does not have a differentiation. It could be human, it could be animals, understanding the information from them without any specific verbal or even physical cues. But it can also be nature, and it can be all of this stuff sounds maybe a little out there, woo for some folks, but it’s also the way that we can solve the business problems or find our path. Right now there’s a huge amount of change, and we’re all experiencing it. How do we find our footing? 

The best way is not through the mind. The mind is a tool, but our intuition is the power. That’s the real power; it connects us to all that is. The most successful folks, the most practical folks, actually are often the most intuitive, but they are grounded inside of that intuition in such a way that they are bringing what information they’re receiving, and that they’re creating alignment, or coherence, is another way to say it. Coherence is communication with the Earth, communication within the brain.

I want to go back to you, healing yourself. How did you heal yourself, and who was there for you on this journey? 

There are still a couple of challenges that I have, even to this day. I’ve been dealt interesting genetic and situational cards, and also the path to resolve them. But I say that I have probably released about 30 disease names that are supposed to be lifelong diseases or not supposed to be resolvable. It could be something like ovarian cysts, so maybe somebody doesn’t have that anymore by the time they reach menopause. But I got rid of mine when I was in my early 30s, which was very young. It was very intentional. Or asthma was getting worse, not better. I didn’t outgrow it. I healed it. There’s a lot of depth and complexity to the story. 

It’s easy once someone has opened the lines of intuition; communication does not have a differentiation.

I credit my grandpa for helping me to get on the path, because prior to age 18 and that really fateful acupuncture visit, I really didn’t know that the world of complementary and integrative medicine existed. Along the way, I’ve worked with so many different practitioners and healers and done a huge amount of research. I’ve dedicated myself to eating in a way that is exactly aligned with my body, getting as much sleep as I can, and taking all of my supplements that really support me. I’m definitely healthier now than I’ve ever been. But it’s not a perfect journey.

Never is.

Yeah, like, “Oh, my hormones are shifting. Oh, wait, I’ve got to recalibrate everything.” There can just be those challenges. But I think that in addition to the physical, the obvious, the practitioners and things like that, it’s also that voice that comes through that helps to guide me, that has helped to lead me through so many tough places where it feels like there isn’t a solution, there’s no known solution for something.

How do you combine your knowledge of neuroscience with the alternative medicine and other systems that you’re using? 

As I was saying, in my undergraduate studies, I studied neurosciences academically, alongside understanding how the perception of the world happens anthropologically, but really, when you understand how the brain works, you understand how it is a perceiving and misperceiving machine on one level, but it’s also just that massive antenna for our spiritual capacity. I think that another piece of the story to bring in, and then I’ll weave together the philosophy a bit more, is that about 15 years ago, I met my colleague, who does neurofeedback therapy, which is a real-time application to the brain that changes how the brain is functioning in milliseconds for repatterning. 

It literally rewires the brain, brings parts of the brain that are inactive into activity or coherence, and it brings the overactive areas down right, so that we can come into that harmonized, like I was saying earlier, that instrument. We can change our reality in so many different ways, by the choices that we make, by what we set our attention to, and everything. 

The more we are spiritual receivers, the more our lives begin to flow with ease, find a depth of power and certainty, and live in alignment with our design.

But we can change our reality directly by working with the brain. The more that we attune the instrument, that aspect within our whole body of the brain, the more that we are that spiritual receiver, the more that our life begins to flow with ease, the more that we find a depth of power and a certainty, and we live in alignment with our design, rather than trying to work against it, we can see things that we didn’t know the moment before, because that’s perceptual awareness. 

When we look into the brain, we can basically see and understand how not just basic functions like cognition, memory, sleep, the ability to move our body, the ability to perceive reality through the senses, all of that is mapped into the brain, and we can see it with extreme specificity on an EEG, an electroencephalogram. 

But we also can understand intuitive capacity. We can also understand wisdom. We can also understand what it’s like to no longer identify so strongly with this false sense of self that’s actually personality traits, and actually feel the real being that’s underneath. We can see inside someone’s EEG their brain map, if they have intuitive capacities. 

But what we’re doing in the work that we do at Holon isn’t just measuring the brain, because I never really was satisfied with being just an academic, I don’t want to just measure, I want to change. I’m here to create massive change. I know that I have that instruction, and so I’ve ended up finding in the work that I’ve done with my colleague, the capacity to change how the brain is functioning, so that we can develop better memory or get rid of ADHD. But more importantly, develop wisdom, develop an opening in consciousness and awareness, and drop massive pain structures.

I’ve done 40 Years of Zen. Were you a part of that?

I suppose a bit, designing it years ago. Yes.

Let’s say I’m coming and doing your program. What type of experience am I expected to have?

Just backing up for a moment, because the listener may not have a lot of reference. Neurofeedback therapy takes the information—it senses it through the scalp, and monitors what’s going on inside the brain. It’s incredibly refined sensors that send information, which is then sent into the computer, and then the computer sends back to the brain how it’s performing. If we’re asking it to be less anxious, and the brain is doing anxious things, I’m oversimplifying in a massive way. 

But if the brain is doing anxious things, then the brain is being given feedback, and when it relaxes, it’s being given different feedback. The brain begins to understand how it’s performing. I think to answer your question, we utilize the most advanced hardware, software and technology in the world, not just for the neurofeedback which I just described, but also we have a cyclic variable altitude chamber, which only 22 units exist in the world. 

Wow. What is that? 

It’s 10 times more powerful than a hyperbaric oxygen chamber in its effect. We get incredible results with ease and speed. That’s part of it. It’s a little spaceship pod-looking thing that you climb into, and it takes you from sea level, or whatever altitude you’re sitting at, up 3000 feet and back down every, let’s say, three seconds, and you go for about 20 minutes inside of that. 

Is it like a big capsule that spins or not? 

No, no spinning. 

Have you done it? 

Definitely, we have all this really advanced technology. I could talk for an hour or a day on all of the different technologies, and what it is that we do with them, even more than that, honestly, but the thing that we provide isn’t technology, because ultimately, we’re working with a spiritual being. We’re working with timeless souls on an endless journey. The subset of clients that we work with is completely badass at whatever they do. They’re doing incredible things. They’re doing things that are helping and moving the needle for the rest of the world. 

They’re doing things that we believe in. We only work with about 30 people a year at this pinnacle level, not because we couldn’t find endless numbers more, but because we don’t actually want to, because the work that we do with people when they’re on site is so highly individualized. We only work with three people at a time, and the experience that they have is more of a spiritual experience. It’s like we’re utilizing technology inside of maybe what an environment that people would have experienced inside of a plant medicine environment, in some ways. 

We are on purpose creating changes in the construct of their reality, not just with technical equipment, which is an amazing way to do it. People definitely get high on their own supply of their own neurotransmitters, and learn that they can evolve and have massive spiritual awakening experiences without an entheogen. But also they’re learning and immersed inside a construct and inside an experience that has so much depth and dimension and heart and soul to it. They learn via a philosophy and strategy, tools, and ways of approaching their entire life. Because these are peak performers. They don’t want to come and turn into a bliss bunny. They don’t want to come and just be like, “Oh, I’ll just go live in an ashram.” 

They want to know: How do I continue to sustain and build on my legacy? How do I create an even bigger impact from here? A lot of the times, those folks, if we don’t rapidly dismantle the framework, they’ll end up burning themselves out and also not fulfilling their purpose, not being able to reach out into the depths of what they’re really here to do and what they’re designed for, and that also can equate, essentially to missing out on successes, but instead help them to live in a way that is strategic and actually a completely different design of reality. 

By doing that and giving them really practical tools, and then helping to align their neurology—the neurosciences here serve spirituality. We’re going to work with a tool like acupuncture, or a methodology like that, or a methodology like changing how the brain is functioning for the purpose of creating a more whole being that lives inside of their unique design, so that they can go in our world. We are doing this work so that we can have people go out into the world and change. Let’s be a part of these. 

Let’s have all of those folks that we work with be a deep catalyst for change. We do a lot of selectivity, finding people who are interested in that, people who only want the science are not a good fit for our program. People who want it because they want to be on Instagram and be able to brag to their friends are not a good fit for our program. We want to see people who are working toward the greater good and have a lot of depth, and know that they have so much more to express in the highest possible ways.

Dr. Amy, I think the idea of becoming a bliss bunny sounds amazing.

That’s the definition that I have, because what we’re working toward is freedom and joy. Real freedom. Freedom from illusion, also freedom financially, that is definitely a piece of it. But we’re no longer slaves to the illusion, we’re no longer in a hamster wheel to live in life. That kind of freedom. But the difference is being able to be grounded inside a site of reality and be actually more effective as a change maker, more effective as a parent, rather than just kind of like, “Oh, it’s okay. I’ll just think happy thoughts, and hopefully everything will work out.” I’m just defining that as a bliss bunny, somebody who loses track of reality.

The imagery of that sounds like so much fun. So, only 30 people a year, it’s very exclusive. What are some practical tools that people who are listening can use to deal with the current soup of reality, like you defined it? Sometimes the soup is not that fresh, and it’s kind of a disgusting soup with rotten vegetables. Sometimes it’s amazing. We’re swimming in it. One day is great, and one day is something not as great. We hear the news. How can you help us with that?

I was describing a lot of the pinnacle work that we have, we’re bringing people through days on site here and programs that are remote, and really constructing these year-long or more multi-year programs to change someone’s depth of their reality. One time here, changes their brain, typically about 40% in about five days. It’s a rapid neurological, energetic and emotional change. That was one layer of possibility. Also, people can work with me remotely, and I can mentor them in all of this and help to shape their outcomes. 

We also have a junior coach on our program who works with a lot of remote technology. If people really love this blend of technology and science, and they want to be guided through a process and also have access to things that are not available to them without a practitioner, then we also can offer remote programs where headsets are sent out, or for instance, we have a program that’s remote that does vagal tone repatterning, and actually changes how the musculature of the inner ear is working according to the polyvagal theory.

Anything with a vagus nerve is downstream of the brain, but it’s still a really important area, and people can get massive results, come through trauma patterning, and get through a lot of sensitivities, for instance, and know how to relate better and connect better with other people, just with that remote program. It’s far less expensive, and we have more availability to offer that to folks with some of the practitioners that are on our team. Something that I want to offer that is just absolutely free is that there’s a recording on our website, and it’s a practice that has changed people’s lives; just that practice alone. 

You always have the ability to shift your state, return to remembrance, and attune your energetic and mental states. As a result, your physiological and neurobiological systems are more harmonious.

It’s not exactly a meditation, but if you do it with your eyes closed, people will say that it is the deepest meditation that maybe they’ve ever achieved. This is true for people who have been meditating for 10 years or more, and it’s also been massively impactful for people who have no capacity really to meditate, who usually feel more anxious when they attempt meditation or calming themselves down. 

I typically hear things like, “I feel like an amoeba. I felt like I lost track of where I began and ended, and I dropped into the present moment. It was so delicious. Oh my gosh. What just happened?” 

I would like to invite people to go and experience that tool, which you have with you for the rest of your life. Because we need those grounded, practical moments. We can all love a workshop or a training. We can all love the moments when we’re quiet and calm in our meditation. But how do we actually change ourselves with such depth and permanence? How do we bring those tools into our everyday, waking moment of reality when we need them the most? 

The tool that I’m describing is available for a free download, and you’ll see it as soon as you go to the website, and that can be brought with you in eyes closed and in eyes open, so that you always have it with you, and you always have the ability to really shift your state and to come back into remembrance, and basically attune your energetic and mental and because of that your physiological, your neurobiological setup to be more harmonious and to be able to find the wisdom, to be able to find the way through whatever it is that you’re working with in that moment.

Let me see if I got it. After doing that, you can have some elements of a blissful bunny amoeba, grounded in truth, swimming in a beautiful soup of reality, and attuned to your neurobiological set. Whoa. That’s awesome. That’s amazing. Maybe share the website now, and we’ll also share it at the end, because we’re not done yet with you.

It’s holonexperience.com. So holos, holographic, hold on—it’s the same root, interconnectedness of all things. We find our power through coming back into connection. It’s just the very first thing that pops up. You can just put your email in, and it’ll be sent over. It’s a tool that you learn, and you have for the rest of your life. You don’t even have to use the recording once you learn the method.

There’s a lot of illusion in many of our moments of meltdown, and that illusion is what’s so limiting.

What other ways do we have to change our experience of reality? Obviously, we need to do the work and ground and do the meditations, and maybe work with some neurofeedback, which I have another question about neurofeedback, but I’ll ask it later. But what happens when we are in the heat of the moment, when we are getting triggered, when we don’t feel so hot? How do we handle that in the moment?

I think the first thing is just to notice that that’s happening, and to know that if we are experiencing some sort of discomfort in that way, in the heat of the moment, that we are experiencing a sense of our own illusion, or a sense of restriction, there is something being restricted. As soon as we know that, then there are tools, including the one that I was just describing, that we can use to reset ourselves in that moment where we are working with our energy, body, mind, and physiology. One thing that can help is just the remembrance, as I said, because later imagine, how many times have we had that trigger moment, and in that moment, we feel like some part of us is dying or a threat of being dead, or we feel like the world is ending, or we’re feeling betrayed or whatever. 

But we also know that we’ve survived, let’s say, a million of those in our lifetimes thus far, and that a lot of the time, what we think is going on is not actually what’s going on. Let’s say we’re having an argument or are feeling a certain way about another person, we don’t actually have all the information, and even if we did, maybe we could perceive that they have betrayed us, but actually, they were just behaving in such a way that because they didn’t understand the full circumstance or they didn’t know what was going on. 

There’s a lot of illusion inside of a lot of our moments of meltdown, and that illusion is what it is that is so limiting. Just to remember in that moment, to be able to step outside of it and be a curious observer is really huge. To be able to impart that breath practice that I was describing, you can immediately modulate. If we work with our tailbone, it’s a lot to get into at the end of a show, but at the bottom of the spine, there’s a triangular-shaped bone called the sacrum, and then beneath that is the tailbone. 

The tailbone, just to talk about that part—I recommend that everybody listen to the fuller practice and get more information on it—but the tailbone is actually an antenna. It’s a receiver, and it’s a part of our capacity to be able to find the present moment and to be able to receive information from Earth, from Mama Earth herself. It’s also downstream and can signal upstream, up into the brain, because it’s connected to our entire neurobiological system in that way. 

If we live a life that is led and aligned, we are in a state of ease and freedom that no other methodology can fake.

When we are in those trigger moments, just a really quick tool that we can do is to bring our awareness to that area of our body and allow it to drop back, because this tail that we have, it’s only maybe an inch long. It’s not like a dog or a cat, and it’s really obvious and hanging out and wagging and all of that, but our tail in those moments has become tucked forward and tight. Just like when you see a dog, and they can see how they’re feeling based on how their tail is looking, we can also understand how we are feeling and change how we’re feeling by moving the tailbone. 

A lot of people know that if we fake a smile, our brain actually changes into a happier state. It’s an incredible thing. If we change how our tailbone is functioning, what we’re changing our brain into, what we’re changing our entire being into, is a being who is safe and has connection. This is a very powerful and kind aspect of a reset that can make a huge difference. Nobody but you has to know you’re doing it. 

You don’t have to go and isolate and meditate, or l do chanting, or all these things that are awesome. But they’re not practical in the middle of a moment. You can’t do that while you’re driving your car, but you can adjust your tailbone. You can do when you’re sitting in a meeting, when you’re having a moment. You can feel it. I’m watching you integrate it as we’re talking about it. 

You see me do that? Because I am. I remember you working with a tailbone at Maverick, and when you were guiding us, I kept thinking to myself, ‘How incredible this is.’ Just like a little movement. It’s so profound. Amazing. How did you discover that?

I have to credit my non-physical teachers. Just showing up every day to serve what I used to call patients, and now I’m calling clients and realizing and recognizing that, in addition to this, was being tucked forward on them. What can happen when we release it back? That’s how I learned a massive. What it is that I teach in the wisdom school, or the prior mystery schools that I’ve taught, is a body of medicine that doesn’t exist anywhere else that I know of. I’ve studied, obviously, Chinese medicine and Western medicine, and also other ancient medicines. What I realized is that we’re working with emotions and energy and thoughts and perceptions and our body in such a limited way, and there’s actually a way that it’s all put together that makes perfect sense. 

Just being able to teach and explain that, and on the basis of how I learned it is by watching people for the last 23 years, because all of this was dawning on me in my first year of practice, and I was watching, and I’m like, “Oh, you know what? It doesn’t matter if the person is male or female, or if they believe themselves to be awesome, or if they believe themselves to be worthless.” 

In our remembrance and alignment, we can unlock and unfold, remembering that we are a timeless soul on an enormous journey.

There are these universal ways that, just like we all breathe. We are also universally working with our energetics, our neurology and our biology in general. Being able to watch that and see that and study it has helped me to then integrate, like I said, a totally unique, I feel, I’ve not seen anything else like it, and very comprehensive and very immediate and practical understanding of how we are actually designed and how to live inside of that design. 

Incredible. What are your three top tips to live a stellar life? 

I’m going to start with a really practical one. Spend time, as soon as you roll out of bed in the morning, doing something that anchors you into your body and into the truth. For me, I might do a little cat cow kind of yoga stuff, or a little qigong. It only has to be for five or ten minutes, but really utilizing that first 90 seconds of our awakening in the morning to anchor into the body and therefore anchor into the truth, and also just move the body, honor the body. A lot of the time, I think that we get outside of ourselves and try to push the body and make it do things, but we’re not actually working with it. We begin inside of that, the humility and the earnest anchoring into the body every day.

I think that really changes things. Also, just kind of continuing from there, into any amount of morning practice. For me, that is reading and writing in contemplation, and then I move into my workout, and I feel like that we need all of those things in order to really be able to support ourselves and to change the outcome, not just live on the hamster wheel of life inside of a low-grade panic, looking like high performers, but actually feel really good. 

There’s a huge difference. If we live a life where we are led and in alignment, we are in a state of ease and freedom that cannot be faked by any other methodology. Let’s skip the methodologies and the fakes and just go straight for the real stuff. That would be the first one, make sure we take care of ourselves in the morning. Because if we prioritize the outer world and our phone and everybody else in our house that we might feel like we have to take care of, we’re inside the illusion. 

When we’re unable to find a solution to our problem, it’s because we’re stuck in a zoom-in.

The second one is to spend time in nature. It doesn’t matter if you live in a big city, go somewhere where there’s more nature, because there you will help you to remember. The remembering, and I’m going to use that one maybe as our third thing, is to stay inside the remembrance. When we’re in a place of remembrance, when we’re in that place of alignment, what happens is really incredible. What happens is beyond our wildest dreams. What happens is we get to beyond our goals, or we find even better dreams, but we do it with ease, and so I would say, just coming back inside of that morning practice, going into nature as much as possible, and in every waking moment, resetting ourselves back, whether that’s like I said, with that very simple tool of the tailbone, just as a piece of as much larger tool we bring ourselves into the remembrance, and inside of that remembrance and that alignment, then everything can actually unlock and unfold and to remember inside of all of that that we are a timeless soul on an enormous journey. 

Maybe share again where people can find you. How did you say it? 

We’re a timeless soul inside of your timeless soul on an endless journey, currently wrapped inside of a male or a female body with whatever name and whatever story and whatever personality traits that we may be describing as who we are, and the truth of who we are is so much bigger than that, and it’s so much bigger than even this lifetime. A lot of the time, we get stuck inside of problems which could be very practical, financial relationship problems, business problems, whatever; we can get stuck inside of the problems of what’s happening inside of society. When we’re unable to find a solution, it’s because we’re stuck inside of a zoom in, and the zoom in is on this person, and this is what’s happening, and it’s good, or it’s bad. 

When we are able to zoom out with bigger capacity and really understand that timeless perspective, we actually find the answers that we’re looking for to be able to then apply in the zoom in of our lives, of the daily, momentary practicalities of everything that we’re challenged by, everything that we’re blessed by. The website, again, is Holon Experience.

Thank you, Amy. That was amazing. I really enjoyed our conversation. You’re welcome to come back anytime. 

Thank you.

And thank you, listeners. Remember to anchor your body first thing in the morning through movement, and move and honor your body and have some kind of a morning practice to get ready for the day. Spend time in nature. It will help you remember, stay inside and remember that you are a timeless soul in an endless journey. Zoom out to find and remember the bigger picture of who you are and have a stellar life. This is Orion till next time.