A Personal Note From Orion

Welcome, stellar listeners! In a world that often highlights our differences, Leon Logothetis reminds us of our fundamental human connection that transcends all barriers.

Leon is a remarkable human being—a keynote speaker, acclaimed author, TV personality, and the star of the Netflix series where he traveled around the world on a vintage yellow motorcycle relying solely on the kindness of strangers. His transformation from a depressed London broker to a global ambassador of kindness is nothing short of extraordinary.

In this episode, Leon shares his journey across 100+ countries, his search for God in India (documented in his Amazon film “The Kindness Within”), and the profound lessons he learned about humanity along the way. We explore how music can open your heart, the power of focusing on goodness in a world that magnifies negativity, and his three rules for living a stellar life.

This conversation matters because in our increasingly divided world, Leon’s experiences prove that beneath our differences, our shared humanity connects us all. His refreshing vulnerability about his own imperfections makes his wisdom all the more powerful and accessible.

You’ll gain practical tools for opening your heart, building meaningful connections, conquering fear one step at a time, and finding purpose beyond external achievements. Whether you’re feeling disconnected, searching for meaning, or simply wanting to bring more kindness into your life, Leon’s insights will transform how you see yourself and others. So, without further ado, let’s dive into the show!

In This Episode

• [03:24] – Leon Logothetis recounts his transition from a broker in London to discovering purpose through kindness, inspired by The Motorcycle Diaries.
• [08:32] – He explores powerful lessons on human connection and the transformative impact of focusing on goodness.
• [13:48] – Leon reveals a heartfelt practice for engaging with others from a place of love and authenticity.
• [22:59] – He opens up about embracing his flaws and emphasizes the value of personal accountability.
• [27:55] – Leon highlights his favorite travel destinations—New Zealand, Tanzania, and Oman—along with the memorable adventures they brought.
• [28:52] – He explains how he navigates negativity and why he chooses not to absorb the energy of difficult people.
• [29:25] – Leon introduces his latest project, The Kindness Within, and outlines his vision for what’s next.
• [30:35] – He reflects on his relationship with discipline and how necessity fuels his routines and self-care.
• [32:48] – Leon delves into his spiritual practice, describing how meditation and daily rituals help him connect with God.
• [40:25] – He offers his most valuable tips for living a deeply fulfilling and stellar life.

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About Today’s Show

Hey Leon, welcome to the show. Thank you so much for being here. Before we begin, can you share one beautiful childhood memory with me?

That’s a great question. We used to go to my grandmother’s island in Greece, which was called Chios. She didn’t own the island, but that’s where she was from. She had a house on the beach, and I remember we used to spend months in the summers on this island, and right outside her house were these big rocks that my brothers and I would always climb on and swim around. That was a very beautiful childhood memory. 

I used to have everything on the outside and nothing on the inside. It wasn’t until I gave up comfort and chased kindness that I felt alive.

Oh, that’s amazing. Could you share a bit about your journey and how you found your purpose? 

Another great question. 

I have them all.

Yeah, clearly. It’s a long story, but I’ll try to make it as short as possible. I’m not entirely sure I’ve found my purpose yet, to be honest, but I’m on the way. I used to be a broker in the City of London. On the outside, I had everything you could ever want. On the inside, I pretty much had nothing you would want. What do I mean by that? I was very depressed, very anxious, and certainly had no sense of purpose. I think I was living someone else’s life, and I thought that would be my life for the rest of my life. 

And then, I stumbled across the movie The Motorcycle Diaries. This was literally 20 years ago, and it’s a romanticized version of Che Guevara traveling around South America relying on kindness. Then there was something about that movie that really touched me in a very, very beautiful way. To cut a long story short, I quit my job and started to travel around the world relying on kindness. 

I hitchhiked from Times Square to the Hollywood sign, relying on kindness. I went from London up to Scotland and back to London on kindness. Then I hitchhiked from the Eiffel Tower to Red Square in Moscow on kindness. I moved to LA, purchased a vintage English taxi, and drove from New York to Los Angeles, giving free cab rides to people. I did a lot of these types of things. I purchased a vintage yellow motorcycle with a sidecar. 

I drove it from Los Angeles around the world back to Los Angeles with no money, no food, no gas, and no place to stay; all I had was relying on people like your listeners, relying on kindness. That ended up being a TV show on Netflix. At the end of each episode, we gave an unsuspecting good Samaritan a life-changing gift. I then did a season two of that, where I went from Alaska to Argentina in a 50 year old yellow beetle, and everything seemed to be going hunky dory, right? 

I ended up giving speeches, being on some of the best press, being on Netflix, etc. When I got what I wanted, I realized that the pain that I had suffered and had been suffering had not gone away. It was then that I had my real moment of clarity and my moment of truth, and I realized that the only way I would resolve everything that was going on was by going inside. So, I ended up walking to a bookshop. You said you lived in LA. You must know this bookshop. The Mystic Journey Bookstore on Abbot Kinney. Remember that bookshop in Venice? 

Yes. Is it still there?

It’s there, but it’s in Santa Monica now. I ended up going to that book shop, randomly picking up the Paramahansa Yogananda book, Autobiography of A Yogi. In it, I read, again, randomly, one paragraph where he was talking to a soon-to-be guru, and he said, “If you reveal God to me, I will follow you anywhere.” 

I had an epiphany, and I decided in that moment to go to India to find God. Now I’m not talking about the God that lives up in the sky with the white beard. I’m talking about the universal energy of love, the universal energy of the source, the universe that lives in everything. To answer your question—I told you, this is going to be a long one, but I had to get here to answer it—my purpose, I guess, has become to free myself emotionally and also, to the best of my ability, help other people free themselves. 

There is so much in everything you taught and said right now. Let’s start with hitchhiking. Were you ever in danger?

I don’t believe I was. People always ask me that. I use my intuition, and my intuition tells me whether to spend time with someone or not. If my intuition says, “Do not do this,” I don’t do it. I never put myself in unnecessary danger. I mean, that’s not true. I have put myself in unnecessary danger many times, but when it comes to putting myself in danger with people, I use my intuition, which has served me very well. It’s not perfect. But it served me well. I’m here, so it did its job. 

What did you learn about people and their kindness?

I learned ultimately that at the base of our humanity, we are the same, irrespective of color, religion, or how much money we have or how little money we have. At base, we are the same. Now, does that mean that people don’t do bad things? No. Of course, people do bad things. We have to protect ourselves. But generally, I have experienced people as good. That doesn’t mean there aren’t people who do bad things. They absolutely are. 

When I got everything I wanted—Netflix shows, speeches, press—I realized the pain inside hadn’t gone away. That’s when I knew I had to go within.

All you have to do is turn on the news to see what happens daily. But we’ve put a magnifying glass on the bad, whereas what would happen if we put the magnifying glass on the good whilst being aware that there is bad, because there is absolutely bad. 

That’s amazing. I think one of the things that I stopped doing is I stopped watching. I blocked myself from social media for a few weeks, so that I can focus on the good and go inside and meditate more. I got so much more productive. I’m so much happier now that I’m not looking at all the bad because even when you go on social media or the news, you never know what you’re going to consume or what’s going to hit you, or what horrible image or horrible sentence is going to sneak inside and live in your mind for days. 

I really detach from that. I love what you’re doing, focusing on the light, because in this universe, where we have a lot of darkness, it’s a union. There is polarity, and the more we have darkness, the more light we have, and the more there is balance in this universe. So focusing on the light is amazing for everyone’s well-being and mental health. I love what you’re doing. I was watching your trailers, and I was crying. It was so beautiful to watch them—just the trailer. I didn’t even get to the whole series, but I was just watching the trailer and found it here just a few hours ago. I found myself tearing up and sniffling. It was so pretty, so beautiful. 

Yes, well, it’s interesting. I don’t disagree with what you say about focusing on the light. It’s absolutely crucial, whilst also being aware that there is a lot of darkness. 

Yeah, I’m aware. I’m in Israel. They came into a lot of darkness in the last year, and darkness came to a point where it was all-consuming, like it affected my mental health and well-being, and it affected the way I was functioning in the world. Especially here, you will hear the news everywhere, and from everyone. I just took a taxi the other day, and he’s like, “Oh, you know those hostages, a few of them are coming back.” People will tell you the news. You will know what happens, or I’ll hurt. We are on ceasefire now, but there is a siren if there’s a war. I hear the siren, but when you go into the news, you start to really, really hit darkness.

That’s true. We’ll always be told. When something really bad happens or something really good happens, someone will tell you.

So then you went and you did all kinds of acts of kindness. What did you feel better about, giving the prize at the end or receiving kindness from people? What touched you more? 

I would say that receiving kindness, obviously, is a beautiful thing. I think we all know what it’s like to be on the receiving end of unkindness, and that’s not very pleasant, and hopefully we all know what it feels like to be on the receiving end of kindness. I would say, though, that giving is something very beautiful and unique. And when you give of yourself and serve and make another human being feel valued and seen, it’s a uniquely beautiful thing. So, I would like to both receive and give kindness.

I like that too. Give me lots of kindness, people. And I like what you’re saying. It’s both, because if you only give, you’re depleting yourself. If you only receive, you’re selfish and do not contribute to society. It needs to be a flow. How do you think people can open their hearts more? They’ll find somebody like you in the street telling them, “Hey, can I stay with you tonight?” As a woman, I would let you stay with me just because I gotta be safe, but I’m probably gonna buy you dinner. How can people open their hearts more?

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Well, this is a very simple way that I have done it. I find a piece of music that touches my heart and listen to it on repeat until my entire body is in tune with not my mind but my soul and heart. Then, I went and lived in that place. I don’t do it perfectly. This is the best version of Leon that you’re interviewing.

This is the best version of Orion, by the way. 

There you are. It’s like a small practice that really helps me and gets me to a place where I can connect with people from the heart. I can be in a really bad place, put on a song and listen to it for 45 minutes, and be in a much better place. That enables me to connect with you. I didn’t have to do that, by the way. I was fine before. But, there are times when I’m not, and it’s so simple. If someone is having a bad day or is anxious, it’s such a simple tool. 

Of course, if there’s a serious problem, speak to a therapist or psychologist. I get that. But this is something that you can do at any point during the day, any point. It’s like the opposite of watching the news. If you’re anxious and you watch the news, you’re just going to become more anxious and you’re going to be more filled with anxiety and maybe hatred, right? But if instead of watching the news, you put on some music that goes straight into the center of your being. You are going to come to the world in a much purer state. Does that make sense?

My purpose has become to free myself emotionally and, to the best of my ability, help other people free themselves.

Makes total sense. I wanted to know what kind of music inspires you.

Lots of different types. It depends on my mood. For example, I woke up happy today, so I just listened to dance music. Other times I wake up, maybe not so happy, and maybe more anxious and a little depressed, I will listen to the music that will ground me, whether it’s chanting music, whatever type of music. There are certain types I don’t like, but generally I like all kinds of music.

That’s good. There is also all the high-vibration music, certain hertz, that is good for a love connection. I had a conversation with my friend, and I don’t know how we got to the pyramids, but she’s like, “Hey, you know they used to move those bricks with sound technology. It’s just been hidden from us because of sound and vibration; it’s so powerful.” I don’t know if it’s true, but it’s probably true.

I know the power of sound to really transform.

Yes. In your journey, was it a specific moment or a specific conversation with someone that created a healing within you? 

All of them, yes. We could be here forever. I’ve traveled extensively, and part of the reason for traveling was the external adventure, but a big part was the internal adventure. There are many, many moments. For example, in the movie The Kindness Within on Amazon Prime, I basically went to India to find God. I was in Ajmera in India, in the Ajmer Sharif mosque. I spoke to rabbis, imams, priests, and many different people. I spoke to Hare Krishnas in the Ash Mishra mosque, speaking to Salman, a man of pure love. He said something to me that was so beautiful. I will butcher it, even though I’ve heard the quote many times. He said, “Acts of death and destruction make the news all the time, but kids running around in this mosque, free and filled with love, never make the news. We have to make love sensational. That is the only way to make people understand love.” It was so beautiful. We have to make love sensational. It was just a beautiful thing. That’s just one small thing that I’ve heard on my journeys.

That’s extremely powerful. How do you think we can make love sensational?

People watching Salman speak literally, we have to make love sensational. I remember saying to him, “You have held my heart today, and I want you to know that you have done that, and I want you to know that I aim to make as many people see and hear your words as possible.” 

He was just such an incredible person. You know, when you meet someone filled with love, again, he’s not perfect by any stretch. But he’s just filled with love. That is a beautiful, beautiful thing. We get to meet people who are filled with hate on the news every day. The beauty of being able to connect with people who are filled with love is transformative.

It seems like you have a deep respect for everyone, whether a child, an elderly woman, or anyone, no matter what race or how poor or rich they are. It seems like you’re very caring about people. Was it something you always had, or something that evolved throughout your journey?

I had goosebumps when you just said that to me. And again, there’s no perfection. 

I can sense people’s hearts. Maybe it’s from all my travels—or perhaps I was just born sensitive. Either way, I try to hold their hearts the way I’d want mine to be held.

You are saying so many times that there is no perfection. This is so good. Every time we talk to somebody who’s been through something, they’re like, “I did this and I did that.” And even I sometimes in interviews. In my last interview, I had to stop and say, “Hey, by the way, this was the grace of God. I couldn’t have done anything that I did without that power, my God, angel,” whatever you can call it. I love that you’re talking about imperfection. You’re so relatable, so beautiful. You’re such a cool dude, seriously.

That’s very kind. Thank you.

Let’s go back to the question that gave you goosebumps.  

I know what it feels like to be decimated by someone’s behavior. I know what it feels like to feel totally broken. I know what it feels like when someone else’s pain—that doesn’t excuse them for what they’ve done—I felt totally valueless. To the best of my ability, I wanted to make sure that others don’t feel that way because of me. It’s basically how namaste is. The light in me sees the light in you. I can sense the hearts of people. I don’t know why. 

I think it’s because of all the travels I’ve done. Maybe I was very sensitive as a kid. I can just sense them, and I feel obliged to hold that person’s heart in a way that I want my heart to be held. And again, you talk about perfection, but I always have to say this. It’s weird whenever I say something really good, there are times when I have absolutely not done that, absolutely not done what I am just telling you I want to do, and it stings when I don’t do it. 

I can think about times now, like I’m not going to go there, but there was one specific time where I remember looking into the eyes of my ex-girlfriend, and I just knew that what I had done had just broken her, and I felt terrible. But I’m human. I make mistakes exactly like you and exactly like every single person who is listening to this podcast. I think another reason I always try to take responsibility is because, as a kid, I would watch all these preachers. 

They would be so high and mighty on their pedestal, saying, “Do this, do that,” then, a week later, you would find out that they just had been doing terrible things. We were all in this together, and we all have an opportunity to do beautiful things, and when we don’t, we have an opportunity to rectify those by doing beautiful things. Does that make sense? I don’t know where I just went, but I went somewhere.

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I had to forgive myself for many mistakes I’ve made in my life, and just say, “I’ve done the best I could at that time, not proud of those moments. I would never do this today, and it’s okay. I love myself no matter what.” It’s okay to be human. I don’t like that people, including me, put all those masks on social media. Sometimes it seems like everybody’s so perfect, and has this perfect life. They’re on top of their game, 24/7, but you never know what goes on when you’re not there watching, right? If you can just be a fly on the wall of some of the most spiritual people in the world, you’ll be like him. Don’t want to be like them, actually.

No one is perfect. And I actually don’t like social media either. I’m very rarely on it, because sometimes even the positive stuff is negative. I don’t know if that makes any sense. 

It makes sense because everything is wrapped with bubble gum. Everything seems like it’s only one thing. It’s like either light or darkness and something. There is nothing in between. And then you see those posts from people who are always like, “Love and healing,” and it doesn’t feel right, it doesn’t feel real, and it’s hard to relate, or people who are watching feeling like they’re less than. We’re all perfectly imperfect, and it’s perfectly fine.

Yes. And didn’t Rumi once say, “Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I’ll meet you there.”

Beautiful. Do you still have a lot of fears that you’re dealing with? How do you conquer fear?

Sometimes I just don’t think about it. For example, on my journey around India, I got up, left my home, and went to India to find God. If I’d actually thought, of course, I realized I didn’t need to go to India to find God. But I needed to go to India to realize I didn’t need to go to India to find God.

It’s like that book where he went all the way to Egypt to find the treasure.

Is that The Alchemist? 

Yes. The Alchemist.

There you go. So, it’s fear. I try my best not to think too far ahead. Because if I think too far ahead, I would never leave my house. It’s the same thing. For example, with the movie I just went to, I didn’t think about everything that would happen. I didn’t think about all the people I was going to meet. I didn’t think about the border guard saying, “You can’t come in.” I didn’t think about the editing process. I didn’t think about all of the things that went wrong.

You probably got a tummy ache at least once. Did you get a tummy ache from Indian food in India? 

I’m very careful about how I eat in India, because I have a very weak stomach. So I actually did not.                                                                              

I’ve been to India a couple of times. Every time I went, I ate in really good places, but still, I got tummy aches. 

It’s amazing, but you have to be careful. So basically, I just do the first step when it comes to fear. I don’t think about the fifty-seventh step or the second step. I just think about the first step, and that makes it easier. 

I want to be more like you. 

Well, like I said, Orion, this is the best version of Leon. If this were the worst version of Leon, you would be like, “I do not want to be anything like this man. Why am I interviewing him?”

No, but that’s smart advice not to analyze and think about all the million steps, because that can create fear. Honestly, I conceived my son through IVF, and if I knew what I was going through to get this beautiful treasure, I would probably have a lot of fear, but because I didn’t know what this was going to be like, I had a lot of courage not knowing what’s going to be at the end. Sometimes it’s good not to know. 

Yeah, it is good not to know sometimes. 

So you’ve been through over 100 countries? 

Yes, I’ve been to over 100 countries. 

Wow, I only got to 40-something. That’s pretty good. I’m behind you. I need to catch up.

Doesn’t take that long if you put your mind to it. I’m sure you can get there.

Right now I have a son, and I’m probably not going to travel that much, but by the time I’m 80, I probably will. Which country is your favorite? Please share a bit about some countries that stood out as far as people and how they treated you.

One of the best ways I deal with negative people is to try not to deal with them.

My favorite countries are New Zealand. 

I’ve been there.

Oh, what an amazing place, right? It’s like a photo shop picture, but better. Also, I would say Tanzania because of the people. They’re just heart-centered people. It was a magnificent experience.

Tanzania is in Africa, right? 

Yes, it’s in East Africa. 

That’s my dream—Safari, Africa. Thank you for reminding me of that dream. 

Yeah, no worries. I would say I also really loved Oman. Oman is just next to Saudi Arabia. It’s just such a beautiful country, and the people were so friendly and kind, and it was a beautiful experience.

That’s beautiful. How do you deal with negativity or negative people now, different from how you dealt with them in the past, after all this experience?

One of the best ways I deal with negative people is to try my best not to deal with negative people. That doesn’t mean I can always get away from negative people without dealing with them, right? But I try my best not to engage.

It seems like you achieved so much as far as the books you wrote, the huge speaking engagement, being on the best talk shows, having a Netflix series and a movie on Amazon, correct?

The Kindness Within: A Journey to Freedom is a movie about my search for God. 

What do you think is next for you? 

Whenever I do interviews, and I’ve done a few, it always seems to be a question, not just for me, but for anyone. I would always have an answer, until recently, because I made a decision to focus my energy on the movie, create the movie, edit the movie, and promote the movie. And I said to myself, I am not going to do anything until all of these things are finished, and whatever will be will be. So, I have no plans. Something will come or not. We’ll see. 

That’s awesome. I like that. Are you very disciplined? 

I can be insanely disciplined. I don’t know where that comes from, but I can be insanely disciplined. 

So if you don’t know where it came from, you cannot teach me how to be more disciplined.  

My partner was looking for a productivity coach and asked me to help her. I was like, “Sure.” So, I went online and looked for some productivity coaches and sent them to her. Then, I realized that your greatest productivity coach is “necessity.” What did I mean by that? If she truly wanted something, it was part of who she was. It was her purpose. It was built into her. It was a necessity to get it that would make her more productive. 

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For example, about a year and a half ago, I started eating properly, and it became necessary for me to look after myself. So I became insanely disciplined. I haven’t eaten bread, fried food, and sugar in a year and a half—all of these things that I used to eat because it was built into me that I needed to become healthy. 

So it was necessary for me to become disciplined. So, I did. Again, it took a long time to get to that place. I’ve been eating sugar since I was a child, nonstop, but it became necessary for me to look after myself.

What if you have so many things that are necessary that you don’t have enough time in the day to do all those things?

Start with the one that’s the most necessary,

But they’re all necessary. 

If you have to do fifty things and it’s so overwhelming that you don’t do any of them, just start by doing one.

Well, it’s better to do one than none. If you have to do fifty things and it’s so overwhelming that you don’t do any of them, just start by doing one, then do two, and then three. That’s how I did it with my food. I started with no bread, and then after a month, I was like, “Oh, that’s easy.” So I was like, “I’m gonna add no sugar.” So I did no sugar. And then after four months, “So that’s easy.” So I just said no fried food, etc. I built on it.

Amazing. I want to go back to your journey to India to find God. Do you speak to God every day? 

I try to.

Do or do not, there is no try.

Yes, you’re right. What I meant by “I try” is that I meditate every day. So that way I do. I guess sometimes I’m more connected than others. Today, I feel connected to God; yesterday, I felt less so. So I do by meditating every day, but sometimes it’s more pure than other times. Does that make sense?

Absolutely. We have different moods every day, especially women; you guys are spared with hormones and stuff like that. So you connect through meditation. Have you ever felt the presence of God in a way that made you feel like, “There is a God and I am connected.”

Absolutely. I can walk, hike, and feel connected to God. Like I mentioned earlier, I can listen to the music and feel connected to God. I can wake up in the morning, look outside my house, look at the trees, and feel connected to God 100%, and that was what Yogananda said to his guru. If you reveal God to me, I will follow you in any way. That was the mission of his life, and once you feel that presence, it’s like an addiction, but a good addiction. It’s like an addiction to love. It’s an addiction to purity. It’s an addiction to what is and what will always be. It’s easy to kind of explain it intellectually, but unless you feel it, it’s hard to truly understand it. Going to India enabled me to have glimpses of it and understand it. I can get there easier these days; not always by any stretch, but I can definitely get there easier.

God is not fear.

I went to India. I went to Oneness University, and it was a bunch of meditations. One of the meditations was a god meditation, where you go inside the meditation and you imagine a chair, and God is sitting there. Whatever God is for you, and you’re a little child, God is just holding you. At that moment, I really felt the presence of God from a place of love because God is not fear. You know, a lot of the time, dogmatic religion is telling God is something really to be afraid of. But at that moment, I felt like I was not alone. I felt that beautiful energy and presence that was just holding me. It’s like the hug you always desired. It’s like the best hug, like your mother’s hug times 1000, it’s really beautiful.

Well, goosebumps, honestly, as you explain, that was beautiful; I’ve experienced that. And when you said God is not fear, anyone who says that God is fear is sorry but has never experienced God.

Do you receive messages that are guiding you? Do you receive visions or auditory, or do you have a feeling of where your next step is, even like daily, with your connection with your meditation?

Definitely, sometimes, not all the time, but yes. I will explain one that was quite extraordinary. So obviously, I shared with you that the movie started when I walked into the bookshop and read Yogananda’s speech to his guru. “If you reveal God to me, I’ll follow you anywhere.” That was a nudge. I then went to India. I’d been there for two or three days. I was in Rishikesh and had had enough after two or three days; it was too much for me. 

I was at a little hotel in the mountains in Rishikesh, and I was on my way to my director’s room to tell him that I was going home, that it was over. “I’m going home. I couldn’t do this. I’m very sorry.” As I was walking to his room, I saw that there was a door open. And I was like, “That’s interesting.” So I walked into the door, and it was a small library. I love libraries. I walked around the library, which was really small, and there were not too many books. 

There was a book called The Divine Romance by, guess who? Paramahansa Yogananda. That book was all about searching for God. In that moment, I was like, “Okay, I get it. I’m not going home. There is no way I can go home.” So, I went to my director’s room and told him what had happened. We filmed it after the event but didn’t make it into the movie. But it was a moment where there was no other option but to keep going. I couldn’t, after that moment, be like, “Yeah, I’m going home.” No way.

When you search for God, and there is a crew filming you searching for God, it is a very internal experience, but also very external, because cameras and lighting people are filming you. How does that feel? Does it feel like you need to put on a facade for the camera? How can you be real in front of the camera, still have your experience and search for meaning?

It’s another great question. I went with two very close friends. The crew was very, very small. 

Okay, that makes sense. 

The cameras weren’t there. It was just as if we were all together, connecting divine. The cameras made no difference. I would have done exactly the same thing without the cameras.

How did your journey affect the friends who came with you?

It affected them profoundly. My experiences were a little different, because I’m having mine, and they’re having theirs. But it affected them because they were experiencing everything I was experiencing. 

Amazing. What else do you want to share about this movie that moved you with all your heart?

So as I mentioned at the beginning, I was transformed by watching The Motorcycle Diaries. After watching that movie, I had this urge to create a documentary that would transform others, and it took me 20 years to fulfill that. I want people to watch the movie and be transformed in their own way, to be touched in such a way, and think that they realize that there’s another way to live. That’s what I want. I want people to be transformed.

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Beautiful. I’m super excited because my husband and I try to watch movies, but we don’t like much junk out there. Even things we used to like are not that interesting anymore. So now, thank you. We have some just to watch.

I hope you enjoy that. 

Thank you for making this journey. Thank you for creating it after 20 years. It is insane and amazing. 

Yeah, it took a while. 

What are your three top tips for living a stellar life?

Number one, never, never give up. Number two, have as much fun as you possibly can. And number three, love with all your heart. And I wish that number two and number three, I followed more closely. Number one, I follow absolutely. Number two, having more fun, not as much—and number three, loving with all my heart. I wish I loved more, but those are the three things. Never, never give up. Have as much fun as you can, and love with all your heart. 

But you are so loving. How can you love more?

Like I said, everyone, you have the best version of me.

But how does the best version of you love? What does it mean to love with all your heart? 

Live from a grounded place of love.

Just to see another human being, just to see oneself, live from a grounded place of love, be respectful, honor others, and create something magical from a place of love. I think that’s what it is, right? 

Yeah. Well, I know you’re telling me this is the best version of yourself, but I also feel like, Leon, this is you right now, already perfectly imperfect, completely and utterly amazing.

That’s very sweet. You are correct. I approve this message. 

Amazing, Leon. Where can people find you? Where can they read books, watch movies, and do all that good stuff?

You can find me on Instagram, @thekindnessguy. You can watch the movie on Amazon Prime, and you can watch the trailer. If you go to thekindnesswithin.com, you can watch the trailer. 

Amazing. Thank you, Leon. It was just a pleasure meeting you. You’re such an inspiration. Everything you’re doing in this world is so important and beautiful, and I’m so grateful you were here today on the show. So thank you so much for being here. Thank you very much for having me. Thank you, and thank you, listeners. Remember never to give up. Have as much fun as you can, love with all your heart, and have a stellar life. This is Orion till next time.

Your Checklist of Actions to Take

{✓} Find a piece of music that touches your heart and listen to it on repeat until your entire body is in tune with your soul. 

{✓} Practice seeing humanity’s common core. Use this perspective to connect more genuinely with others you encounter daily.

{✓} Follow your intuition for safety. When meeting new people or entering unfamiliar situations, use intuition as a guidance system. If your intuition says not to do something, honor that feeling as a protective mechanism.

{✓} Intentionally shift your attention to positive aspects of humanity rather than constantly focusing on negative news. This doesn’t mean ignoring reality, but creating balance by seeking out and amplifying kindness.

{✓} Create a flow of kindness by both giving and receiving. When giving, focus on making others feel valued and seen. When receiving, practice gracious acceptance without depleting yourself.

{✓} Combat fear by focusing solely on the first step rather than worrying about all future steps. Overcome overwhelm by not thinking too far ahead, which can prevent you from taking action.

{✓} Identify what’s necessary in your life and let that drive your discipline. Start with one crucial change, master it, and then build on that success by gradually adding additional practices.

{✓} Establish a consistent meditation to connect with a higher power or universal energy. Even when the connection feels stronger some days than others, maintain the practice to strengthen spiritual awareness.

{✓} Protect your energy by mindfully choosing who you spend time with. When you must engage with negativity, practice non-engagement rather than getting pulled into toxic exchanges.

{✓} Follow Leon Logothetis on Instagram @thekindnessguy and watch his documentary The Kindness Within: A Journey to Freedom on Amazon Prime. Visit leonlogothetis.com to see transformative insights about human connection and spiritual growth.

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Leon Logothetis is a renowned keynote speaker, acclaimed author, and TV personality. Leon Logothetis ignites positive change by unleashing the boundless power of kindness. After an unfulfilled life in finance, Leon found a new purpose through global travels fueled by kindness, inspiring others with his message of human connection.